Collecteur INOX ?

17-01-2006 à 13:56:42
Bonjour à tous.
J'ai une Vectra B 2.5 v6 de 1997 et je cherche depuis assez longtemps à échanger les collecteurs d'origine par des INOX pour gagner un peu de CV ? de couple ?
Après beaucoup de mal, il y a quelques mois il semble qu'IRESA a ce qu'il me faut : je commande donc, et je reçois le tout plusieurs semaines plus tard.

Voila ce que j'ai reçu :



Apparemment du sérieux bien fini avec toutes les pièces.
Sauf que, c'est bien pour un X25XE (vectra, omega et 3.0 sintra),
MAIS pour un moteur en position longitudinale donc pour moi pas OK du tout vu que le mien est en transversal.
Après renvoi chez IRESA et remboursement (IRESA bien, bon de retour avec port payé etc.), je décide de chercher encore...

Finalement, après de nouveaux contacts, MADAC semble avoir ce qu'il me faut. Je commande mais vendredi dernier, coup de téléphone :
MADAC m'annonce qu'ils n'ont des collecteurs INOX que pour des X25XE en position longitudinale (je les avais prévenus de ma précédente mésaventure).

Première question : Avez vous connaissance de vectra B v6 avec moteur en position longituninale (je suis sceptique). D'après eux en allemagne c'est comme ça...

MADAC me propose la ligne complète sur mesure à un prix... (pour Info ils me demandaient 1004 € juste pour les collecteurs, mais j'avais réussi à négocier un bon rabais).
Je ne suis pas vraiment intéressé vu le reste de mon échappement.

Seconde question : SVP Avez vous déjà vu des collecteurs INOX pour vectra B v6 ?
J'ai beau chercher je ne trouve pas.

Merci BEAUCOUP de votre aide.

P.S. Petit salut à alex et à hornet. Alex je ne pourrais pas venir le 18 mars (fête anniversaire 8 ans de mon fils).

P.P.S. Comme d'hab. je ne sais pas si l'image passera (je l'ai réduite en 640x480).

Vectra B v6 2.5 cdx 1997 - Décata - Ligne Inox Bastuck - KAD Viper Pipercross - Puce Digital (reprogrammée) - Prepa Culasse TechnoMap + AAC shrick -
Ressorts Eibach - Amort. Koni Sport - Disques AV Zimmerman Gr N, AR OMP- Mille miglia EVO 8x17" - ;)
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15-01-2006 à 01:05:36
Qui dit longitudinal dit propulsion en général. J'en ai pas eu connaissance sur vectra (ni sur calibra), par contre sur omega il a bien existé en longitudinal.

Sinon à priori oui, tu devrais y gagner un peu en perfs. Le collecteur d'échappement est même sûrement plus important que l'admission, d'ailleurs les 2 devraient aller ensemble. Le travail simultané des 2 doit certainement apporter plus que la somme des 2 modifications seules.
15-01-2006 à 02:29:58
Iresa m'avait proposer un collecteur inox 6 en 1 qui était pour vectra X25XE pour un prix d'environ 649 € HT………
Il n'y a que l'Oméga en propulsion (donc longitudinal) calibra c25xe et x25xe vectra x25xe sont bien transversal même en Allemagne………
Madac n'a pas du comprendre ta demande ou sinon t'on sortit une grosse connerie…

Va revoir Iresa car ils font bien un 6 en 1 pour vectra b v6 :
Envoie leur un mail >>>> iresafrance@wanadoo.fr
Site Web >>>> http://perso.wanadoo.fr/iresafrance%20/

DŽbut des travaux de restauration :
- Novembre dŽcembre >>> Chassi Freinage brembo + Barre stab etc
- 1er semestre >>> Moteur refait + prŽpa + F28
- 2nd semestre >>> Carrosserie et intŽrieur

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15-01-2006 à 10:22:20
tres bon sujet vue que j ai mon collecteur cote habitacle à remplacer mais je trouve rien non plus à part l origine.

est ce que quelqun aurait le prix du collecteur d origine chez opel ??? et l aurait deja changer galere ou pas ?

Vectra 2.5 V6 Executive GPS de 2000
15-01-2006 à 20:21:18
Salut,
Merci pour vos réponses:
Micky33, Iresa m'assurait effectivement qu'ils avaient bien ce qu'il me fallait. D'ailleurs sur la boîte qu'ils m'ont livrée la référence vectra B v6 x25xe figure bien. Sauf qu'après discussion avec le responsable usine (en espagnol s'il vous plait), il n'avait rien pour ma configuration.
Et donc ils m'ont remboursé après bien sûr avoir vérifié qu'il n'y avait rien pour moi (au début leur réponse a été : on va se débrouiller pour vous avoir ce qu'il faut). Le remboursement a été leur dernière alternative.

Pour Hugoboss :
J'ai il y a quelque temps demandé les prix chez Opel ainsi que les schémas des collecteurs que le magasinier a bien voulu m'imprimer et que j'ai faxé chez IRESA pour qu'il puisse bien voir le modèle. Il m'avait donné les prix mais j'ai oublié. En tout cas un truc m'avait frappé c'était la différence de prix entre les deux collecteurs: l'un est presque le double de l'autre (pourquoi ?). Dans mon souvenir le moins cher était à un peu plus de 200€ et l'autre plutôt 400+€. J'ai laissé mes copies chez Top Garage qui devait me monter le tout mais je peux essayer de leur redemander.

Toujours en attente de tous vos tuyaux (RIRES! pour une demande sur l'échappement...)
Merci



Vectra B v6 2.5 cdx 1997 - Décata - Ligne Inox Bastuck - KAD Viper Pipercross - Puce Digital (reprogrammée) - Prepa Culasse TechnoMap + AAC shrick -
Ressorts Eibach - Amort. Koni Sport - Disques AV Zimmerman Gr N, AR OMP- Mille miglia EVO 8x17" - ;)
16-01-2006 à 19:32:15
Fait en un sur mesure il va te couter un peu cher environ 800€ posé autant qu'une ligne complête sur mesure… c'est la seule chance pour toi car en allemagne y a rien du moins sur le net………………
Mais je continu a cherhcer au cas où pour toi pour le moment car je sais pas si je garde la grosse encore. ;)

DŽbut des travaux de restauration :
- Novembre dŽcembre >>> Chassi Freinage brembo + Barre stab etc
- 1er semestre >>> Moteur refait + prŽpa + F28
- 2nd semestre >>> Carrosserie et intŽrieur

Y'a du boulot loOol
16-01-2006 à 21:16:50
Salut Micky33. Merci pour tes recherches.
Dans les jours qui viennent j'essaye 2 nouvelles pistes:
ORBISOUD à Cergy et EQUINOX dans le sud.

Je suis pas très chaud pour la ligne complète étant donné que j'ai déjà investi dans l'intermédiaire et le silencieux (bon il y quelque temps déjà).
Et surtout la prépa maison qui me permet d'échanger catalyseur et "tube afrique" facilement.

En allemagne j'ai bien vu différents trucs dont :
http://www.hubtraum.de/shop/autotuning-shop.html?d_C153_Facherkrummer_Opel_Omega_B_2_5_V6_24V_170_PS_Motor_X25XE3587.htm
qui correspond au moteur X25XE mais pour Omega.
Peut-être faudrait-il que je creuse un peu plus du côté du fabricant RC-Racing ?

Si j'ai le courage il faudrait que je ressense tous les fabricants sur lesquels je suis tombé, certains étant peu connus (Ragazzon, Peco, Janspeed, etc.)

Au fait Micky33 quand tu me dis "du sur mesure à 800€", pensais-tu à un fabricant/artisan en particulier que tu connaitrais ?





Vectra B v6 2.5 cdx 1997 - Décata - Ligne Inox Bastuck - KAD Viper Pipercross - Puce Digital (reprogrammée) - Prepa Culasse TechnoMap + AAC shrick -
Ressorts Eibach - Amort. Koni Sport - Disques AV Zimmerman Gr N, AR OMP- Mille miglia EVO 8x17" - ;)
16-01-2006 à 22:53:10
je ne voudrais pas m'avancer, mais essaye voir LEXMAUL.DE, je suis sur que tu devrais trouver ton bonheur....
17-01-2006 à 00:06:26
Merci Christian67.
J'avais déjà été chez eux. Par acquis de conscience je viens de revérifier mais pas de "Facherkrummer" (c'est comme ça qu'il disent) pour x25xe.
Effectivement pour les autres moteurs ils ont ce qu'il faut.

Merci tout de même de ton aide.

Vectra B v6 2.5 cdx 1997 - Décata - Ligne Inox Bastuck - KAD Viper Pipercross - Puce Digital (reprogrammée) - Prepa Culasse TechnoMap + AAC shrick -
Ressorts Eibach - Amort. Koni Sport - Disques AV Zimmerman Gr N, AR OMP- Mille miglia EVO 8x17" - ;)
17-01-2006 à 13:56:42
Oui un qui se trouve a Toulouse mais jje ne sais plus son nom…
A 800€ c juste les collecteurs !
Je voulais faire deux 3 en 1 pour une double ligne d'échappement mais il y a un petit moment de cela.
Donc par la suite faire les 2 lignes mais ca me revenais à environ 2200€ avec les sorti oblong avec un diametre de la ligne à 70 mm au lieu de 60 ou 62,5 mm d'origine…

Sinon en te renseignent sur le forum de gsi-turbo.com il devrait pouvir t'aider c'est des fanatique de prépa et de swapp !!
GSI-TURBO.COM

DŽbut des travaux de restauration :
- Novembre dŽcembre >>> Chassi Freinage brembo + Barre stab etc
- 1er semestre >>> Moteur refait + prŽpa + F28
- 2nd semestre >>> Carrosserie et intŽrieur

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