Probleme à l'arriere

19-07-2007 à 11:06:09
Bonjour, j'ai une vectra B 1.7td année 1996 de 271000km.
J'ai constaté un probléme assez inquiétant.
A chaque fois que je suis sur une route en mauvaise état et que je prends des trous, j'ai ma vectra qui bouge dans tous les sens.J'ai meme l'impression que je chasse.
J'ai changé les 4 silents blocs.
De plus j'ai constaté une usure anormale sur l'extérieur de mes pneus arrieres.Est ce mais amortisseurs???Ou autre chose.Merci d'avance pour vos reponses.
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17-07-2007 à 21:52:12
silents blocs ou joints articulés ???

si tu parle de 4 "silents blocs" je pense que c'est les joints articulés.
Et ta barre stab ? pas de problèmes ?

Sinon je ne vois que la suspension à l'arrière.
Appuie sur le cul de ta voiture si elle redescends après être monté une première fois c'est qu'elle donne des signes de faiblesse.

Enfin la mienne à 265 000 kms et est d'origine à l'arrière et son état et encore bon.
17-07-2007 à 21:58:00
Oui c'est les 4 joints que j'ai changé.2 à gauche et 2 à droite.
Coment dois je faire pour verifier l'état de la barre stab???

17-07-2007 à 22:35:56
c'est les silents blocs de barre stab.
Ca doit faire du bruit.
Au pire dans le doute pour le prix que ça coûte il est toujours possible de les changer.
Tu vois visuellement si ils sont ovalisés.
17-07-2007 à 22:39:27
Ma vectra chassait aussi sur la moindre aspérité de la route : amortos HS de chez HS... J'ai 138000 km et c'est une 5 portes.

Elle en arrivait à me faire peur par sa tenue de route, j'avais un kangourou...

--Message édité par Vison buté le 17-07-07 à 22:39:56--

Opel Vectra GL 1.6 16V
17-07-2007 à 22:48:57
Donc le probléme pourrait venir de la barre stab et des amortisseurs.
C'est ce qui expliquerait l'usure de mes pneus arrieres?
Est ce le probleme pourrait venir des bras??Du moins au niveau des 2 gros joints.
Merci pour vos reponses.
17-07-2007 à 23:37:20
non la barre stab je dit ça comme ça car c'est facile à controler mais j'en doute.

Les amortos en revanche ça c'est fortement probable.
Normalement l'usure de tes pneus a du être provoqué par tes joints articulés HS car c'est eux qui donnent du jeux sur le train arrière maintenant qu'ils sont changés ça ne devrait plus s'user.

Depuis quand as-tu cette usure ? as-tu changé de pneus après avoir changés tes joints articulés ?

Pour être sûr que ce ne sont pas les bras tu regarde directement sous ta voiture l'idéal étant de les nettoyer pour déceler d'éventuelle fissures (j'ai vu ça sur le forum je sais plus qu'elle personne en parlait)

voilà après je peux rien dire de plus car à l'arrière y'as vraiment pas grand chose qui prend du jeux.
18-07-2007 à 10:11:21
Salut, j'ai le même probleme avec la mienne, elle danse sur la route! lol

J'ai levé la voiture (sur un pont) puis j ai mis les essieux arrières en contrainte (avec un cric et un bout de bois) pour trouver d'ou venait le bruit.
C'etait les silenblocs des bras de l'essieu.

Le pire c'est qu'Opel ne vends que les bras complets (environ 70€/pcs) mais je l'ai eu par un pote qui bosse chez midas.

Tu peux aussi les retrouver sur oscaro : http://oscaro.com/r1617-Suspension%2C+jambe+d%27essieu+pour+OPEL++VECTRA+B+3%2F5+portes+%2838%5F%29+2%2E0+DTI+16V+%28101+Cv%29+de+l%27ann%E9e+1999-9010-84-1999-1453.htm

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18-07-2007 à 14:35:15
Bibi, tes pneus s'usaient ils sur l'extérieur???Coimbien ça coute de les faire remplacer?
Merci pour vos reponses.
19-07-2007 à 09:02:30
En fait mes pneus s'usaient sur le milieu et l'interieur mais pas sur l'exterieur, mais bon faut aussi dire qu'elle est montée en 225/45/17 et avec un rabaissement de -45, ça lui tire les trains comme les bmw. C'est presque impossible de les bouffer à l'exterieur avec cette monte.

Pour le cout de la réparation je ne sais pas car titine ne va jamais au garage, mais mon pote m'à dit qu'il fallait compter entre 10€ et 15€ par silenbloc (a multiplier par 4) et 1h30 de MO par coté soit 3h de MO.
J'espère que ça peut t'aider
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19-07-2007 à 11:06:09
euh c'est plutôt 44 euros par joints articulés oui ;)
et faut compter 1h au moins coût de l'opération si mes souvenirs sont bons chez le garagiste 300 euros.

Au fait bibi tu ne nous as jamais présenté ta titine ??!!
elle à l'air bien jolie !
à quand des photos ???
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